Dogma

In this topic you'll find all you might want to know about how DKP works. Please remember that these rules may be expanded or changed while the group steps further in progression.

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5 points per boss restored in 25 men instances.
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INTRODUCTION
Ðogma has come back to the game recently, and we spent some time discussing how to use dkp in our raids. Our main goal, as usual, has been to create a system easy to understand that would help his users - the players - to share in the fairest way possible the loot in our 25 men raids.

In the past few days we decided to keep existing dkp for our players, however, due the large amount of points involved, the council agreed to divide all the dks per 10, discarding fractions. So, if you had for istance 243 dkp, now you should have 24. This has been done mainly to be able to run faster bids during our raids, and to offer newcomer an acceptable way to have their new items after a reasonable time they raid with us.

So let's begin. Here it comes all you want to know about dkp's in Dogma, and you never dared to ask

DKP IN ToGC - 10 MEN
Running with one of the Guild Raiding Group will always grant you a certain amount of dkps (depending on how many boss-kills we do in the run you're involved in). These points can be used to 'bid' your most-wanted drops during the 25-men raid.

You'll be granted 1 dkp point for any boss killed in ToGC 10.

While in ToGC 10, you can't use dkp to bid tho - you can just store those for further raids. Loots will be assigned using rolls at the end of a boss fight in the usual way you're familiar with. Same rule will apply to any boe loot we could find. Main spec will always have priority over off-spec. Depending on Raid Leader decision, Tank or Healer may have priority over dps.


DKP IN ICC - 10 MEN
Running with one of the Guild Raiding Group will always grant you a certain amount of dkps (depending on how many boss-kills we do in the run you're involved in). These points can be used to 'bid' your most-wanted drops during the 25-men raid.

You'll be granted 1 dkp point (2 if heroic) for any boss killed in ICC 10.

While in ICC 10, you can't use dkp to bid tho - you can just store those for further raids. Loots will be assigned using rolls at the end of a boss fight in the usual way you're familiar with. Same rule will apply to any boe loot we could find. Main spec will always have priority over off-spec. Depending on Raid Leader decision, Tank or Healer may have priority over dps.

25-MEN RAIDS
Running with one of the Guild Raiding Group will always grant you a certain amount of dkps. These points can be used to 'bid' your most-wanted drops during the 25-men raid.

A 25-men raid could grant you DKPs at the end of the run (i.e. you can't use dkp earned from a 25-men raid in the same raid you're running), depending on how many bosses have been killed (see details below*).

Dogma's Raiders can use their DKP to buy every rare/epic drop in a 25-men raid. The following restrictions will apply:

1. If the item is more useful for a specified class, this will have priority
2. Armor Pieces will go first to the designed class/spec (for example, Holy Priests will have priority on cloth healing pieces)
3. Spec will have priority over Off-spec
4. A raider cannot outbid other players more than 2 times in the same run, unless everyone interested in the item have won 2 items already.

Every item will have a starting value of 5 DKP. If you don't have any dkp when the raid starts, you can't bid.To speed up the bids, you can bid only in multiple of 5 (so, 5, 10, 15, 20 etc).

The raid leader will announce the bid, and raiders interested will write in raid chat their bid. If 2 bidders offer the same amount of DKP, who write first will get the valid bid between the 2.

Example:
[Raid][Lithwen]: opening bids for [Axe of the Gronn Lords] now
[Raid][Talea] : 5 dkp
[Raid][Vertebra]: 10 DKP
[Raid][Silvara]: 15 dkp
[Raid][Dragho]: 15 DKP
[Raid][Dragho]: 20 DKP
[Raid][Vertebra]: 25 DKP
[Raid][Lithwen]: bid closing in 5
[Raid][Lithwen]: 4
[Raid][Lithwen]: 3
[Raid][Lithwen]: 2
[Raid][Lithwen]: 1
[Raid][Lithwen]: Vertebra won [Axe of the Gronn Lords]

Please remember: you CAN'T have a negative dkp, unless the raid leader let you do.

If you bid more dkp than you have, you may lost the amount you bid without receiving the item, or you may be removed from the the raiding group roster. So please, take time to see how many dkp you got on our dkp site.

*25 MEN GROUP RAIDS TABLE
[Ice Crown Citadel 25]
Every boss: 5 dkp

Ice Crown Citadel HEROIC 25]
Every boss: 7 dkp

[Trial of Crusader 25]
Every boss: 2 dkp

[Trial of Crusader HEROIC 25]
Every boss: 5 dkp

*10 MEN GROUP RAIDS TABLE
[Ice Crown Citadel 10]
Every boss: 1 dkp

[Ice Crown Citadel HEROIC 10]
Every boss: 2 dkp

[TOGC 10]
Every boss: 1 dkp

PENALITY (?)
The raid procedure is made by few steps:

1. you've been invited from the ingame calendar
2. you accept the invite
3. you're confirmed on the ingame calendar

As you can see from point 2. you're required to do an action if you want to partecipate (accepting the invite on the ingame calendar), and you'll receive a confirmation if you can join or not (usually 12 hours earlier than the raid).

If you fail to show up to a raid you've been confirmed more than once per month, you'll loose 10 DKP, and you could be removed from the raiding group roster. Keeping this in mind, please accept or sign up only to raids you're almost sure to attend.

If you have any question or doubt, please feel free to ask.

ABOUT UNSCHEDULED RUN
Unscheduled run are not eligible to gain any dkp.

If you got any question or concern regarding this subject, please feel free to post or contact an officer in game.

ABOUT THE "VINTAGE RUNS"
Because we're nostalgic players, we like to organize few run in the old content instances like Molten Core or Black Wing Lair. We realize that many players have started their journey in Azeroth after the release of Wrath of the Lich King and might be interested in have a glance to this old memories of WoW.

However, please note that this kind of raids (that we called "Vintage Runs") wont worth any dkp.

TRANSFERING DKP BETWEEN ALTS
Transfering DKP between alts is not allowed for no reason.

The only exception is when the raid leader asks you to grab your alt to satisfy the raiding group composition - but this should not be the standard. Consider dkp as "bound on pickup" on the char you're using

Thanks

Hey Lith,

I was wandering about the following:
Soon will have the second 25men raid grp running some spots might be filled by Alts for example i have respecced my paladin from Retri to Holy to be of service to Chloe's raid as healer on Gruul , will i be able to use my main's Dkp to bid and will i recive Dkp for my time and effort aldo i am not on Skulldragon during that raid so it is a shared account between my chars and say besides tier items i can use skull's Dkp to bid for (mainspecc) items.

Stuff like weapons/shield and tier should go to mains abouve alts imo but say a random armor piece or a trinqet ( u get the idea ) plz give me some feedback when u got the time m8 ,

love skull <3

Hi Skull, unfortunately DKPs will be bound to the char you're using in the run. So you can't use dkps of your main to bid for an alt or vice-versa. This infact could be easily abused.

The DKPs will be assigned to the char that is currently running, and can't be assigned to a main (or an alt).

The only main exception is if the Raid Leader (and only him) ask you to change your char during the run to reflect the raid needs (like a dc of another player). In that case you can still have dkps on your previous char, even if your running with the other. This shouldn't be the standard anyway, and each case will be monitored to avoid any abuse.

Just few more words about it - all this is done to avoid few players can hoarde huge amount of dkp using alts, or, like in my case, using a great amount of dkp to outbid everyone with an alt. Bounding dkp to each char sounds fairer for everyone, expecially the people who loves to play just with one char

Thanks for asking, it has been a popular FAQ, I should have think to write it somewhere here

ok thnx m8 for clearing that up =)

snif